Kingdom of Heaven for Arabs

Jihad or LOVE…you choose…

JIHAD or Love of God?

Heaven or death?
We choose….

Welcome all to the KIngdom of God! But how to get there?

Brothers, here is my conversation with my sister about jihad and Holy Land

Conversation 1

Bahira says about revelation in Christianity: “So the revelation in Christianity is God’s words revealed by the Holy Spirit to the person or the prophet assigned by God who unites with God spiritually and exists in the presence of God”

Then she says:” In Christianity there is no intermediary but God reveals directly to man, while in Islam there is an intermediary.”

In another part she says: “So to understand the Holy Bible, man has to ask help from the Holy Spirit to teach him as He is the teacher who wrote the Holy Bible. Man should say: O spirit of God teach me your words”

Don’t you see that there are contradictions between these sentences?

Is there an intermediary (Holy Spirit)?

Or no intermediary?

Or they are taught by the Holy Spirit upon request?????

In Islam Revelation have two types:

1- Revelation by words: God gives the Prophet the exact words which is Quran.

2- Revelation by meaning: insertion of a meaning into the heart of the prophet which is Hadeeth.

So, What Muhammad says using his own words is revelation of Hadeeth not Quran. But Quran is the exact words of Allah.

But Bahira is trying to give us an impression that it was all inspiration not the exact words of God. She is using some verses from Quran saying that Quran is an inspiration such as: Al Anaam 19, Al Kahf 110, Al-Najm 4.

To analyze these verses we find that:

1- The first verse is telling that Quran is revelation to Muhammad, not inspiration. The second and third verses are telling that Muhammad receives revelation from God. So these verses do not support Bahiras claim.

2- Yes Quran is revelation (inspiration by exact words). Since Bahira uses verses from Quran to prove her point, then there are verses from the Quran that say explicitly that Quran is the word of Allah:

Al Tawba 6, Al Fath 15, Al Sajda 2, Foselat 41-42


Bahira claims that Quran is not revelation from God for the following reasons:
1-
There are Quran verses having another indications, In  them it seems that Muhammad is the speaker
2- There are other verses uttered by the angels
3- there are words in the Quran taking the pattern of invocation
4- verses containing praising words
5- Quran verses with blessing frame as “Blessed be Allah”
6- there are verses with thanking frame

The Answer will be:

1- Showing how Bahira uses Quran verses out of their context.

2- Showing that these criteria apply to the Bible not to Quran.

First: How Bahira uses Quran verses out of their context.

Muhammad’s words:

Bahira says: “There are Quran verses having another indications, In  them it seems that Muhammad is the speaker.” And concludes: “So if they were God’ words, he wouldn’t say the verses as if he is the speaker, it is Muhammad who is speaking words of his own.”

Answer:

1- She used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- The context of these Ayahs has the meaning of “Say” because the context is all about God’s speech. If we Revise the examples Bahira mentioned by reading the whole context, including the Ayahs before and after the ones she mentioned, we find:

« She mentioned (Surat Al-An’am) 104:”I am not a watcher over you” and ignored that the context is all the speech of God and that a following Ayah is a command from God to Muhammad: (اتبع ما أوحى إليك من ربك) “Follow what thou art taught by inspiration from thy Lord: there is no god but He: and turn aside from those who join gods with Allah.” (Al Anaam 106)

« She mentioned (Surat Al-An’am) 114: “Shall I seek a judge other than Allah” and again ignored that the context is all the speech of God.

« She mentioned (Surat Hud) 2:” worship none but Allah. Verily, I am unto you from him a Warner and a bringer of glad tidings. Then I fear for you the torment of a Great Day” She wrote misleading translation of the Ayah. The Ayah is about Quran and says that Quran tells people not to worship anyone except Allah.

« She mentioned (Surat An-Naml) 91:” I have been commanded only to worship the Lord of this city… And I am commanded to be from among the Muslims” and 92:” I have been commanded to recite the Quran”.

She ignored that the context started with the word “Say” in Ayahs 59, 65, 69, and 72, and is followed by Ayah 93 that begins with “Say”, because the whole context is that God ordering Muhammad to tell people some things.

Does God have to tell Muhammad “Say” every Ayah, or can tell him to “Say” every group of Ayahs?

« She mentioned Surat Ash-Shura) 10:” Such is Allah, my Lord in whom I put my trust,” and again ignored that the context starts with Ayah 7 (وكذلك أوحينا إليك) “Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur’an:”, and ends with Ayah15 (فلذلك فادع واستقم كما أمرت) “Now then, for that (reason), call (them to the Faith), and stand steadfast as thou art commanded”.

Again does God have to tell Muhammad “Say” for every order or can tell him “Say ….. and ….. and ….”?

The angels’ words:

Bahira says: “There are other verses uttered by the angels” and says: “So being the words of God they should not be said by Muhammad or the angels”

Answer:

She Chose tafseer Al Galalen which says :” Gabriel said to the prophet: we the angels have a certain dignified rank in heaven worshiping God within that and not exceeding it,”

1- Does that mean that God is not narrating what Gabriel said to Muhammad?

2- Why didn’t you choose Tafseer Al Tabary that says: “وَهَذَا خَبَر مِنْ اللَّه عَنْ قِيل الْمَلَائِكَة أَنَّهُمْ قَالُوا: وَمَا مِنَّا مَعْشَر الْمَلَائِكَة إِلَّا مَنْ لَهُ مَقَام فِي السَّمَاء مَعْلُوم .”. “This is what God told about the angels that they said: we angels have certain dignified rank in Heaven”

Words with no message:

Bahira says: “they show no minor evidence of any message from God to people”

1- Again used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- Bahira says that Surat Ash-Shams, Surat Al-Qari’ah, Surat Al-Asr, and Surat At-Takaathur do not contain any message from God to people!!!!!!!!!!!

What about Surat Ash-Shams? telling people: (قد أفلح من زكاها وقد خاب من دساها) “Truly he succeeds that purifies it, And he fails that corrupts it!”.

Don’t people need to purify their souls to succeed?

What about Surat Al-Qari’ah? Telling people (فأما من ثقلت موازينه فهو فى عيشة راضية وأما من خفت موازينه فأمه هاوية) “Then, he whose balance (of good deeds) will be (found) heavy, Will be in a life of good pleasure and satisfaction. But he whose balance (of good deeds) will be (found) light,- Will have his home in a (bottomless) Pit.”

Don’t people need to know that doing goog deeds will make the go to Heaen and that doing bad deeds will make them go to hell?

What about Surat Al-Asr? Telling people: (إن الإنسان لفى خسر إلا الذين آمنوا وعملوا الصالحات وتواصوا بالحق وتواصو بالصبر), “Verily Man is in loss, Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy.“.

Is telling people what they should do in order not to be in loss a message from God to people or not?

What about Surat At-Takaathur? Telling people: (ألهاكم التكاثر حتى زرتم المقابر), “The mutual rivalry for piling up (the good things of this world) diverts you (from the more serious things), Until ye visit the graves.“.

Is telling people what they should concentrate on serious things before the die a message from God to people or not?

Invocation words:

Bahira says: “there are words in the Quran taking the pattern of invocation”  and says: “could God say: “we worship” and ask for help and ask for guide to himself?”

Answer:

1- Again she used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- What’s wrong if Allah teaches us what to say in Duaa and prayer?

Praising words:

Bahira says: “does God glorify and praise himself? Those words are not definitely the words of God”

Answer:

1- Again she used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- God is telling us that all creatures glorify Allah. What’s wrong with that? What’s wrong if Allah praises Himself? Allah deserves praise.

Blessing words

Bahira says: “some Quran verses with blessing frame as “Blessed be Allah”” and says: “So could the speaker in those verses be God himself and he is blessing himself??”

Answer:

1- Again she used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- The original Arabic word that Bahira is referring to is the word “TABARAK” which means “highly exalted; far removed from every defect, impurity, imperfection, and everything derogatory; possessing abundant good”

3- The usage of the translation “Blessed” does not mean the same blessings given to creatures, the word “Blessed” has another meaning which is found in the dictionary: “worthy of adoration, reverence, or worship”. Revise your knowledge, Bahira!

Thanking words

Bahira says: “And thanks can’t be the words of God as he couldn’t thank himself. So in conclusion, not all of the words of the Quran are God’s words.”

Answer:

1- Again she used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- What’s wrong if Allah tells us that He deserves to be thanked?

Conclusion:

The 7 Criteria that Bahira claimed to prove that Quran is not the word of Allah are as follows:

1- Quran is Muhammad’s words (proved to be a false claim)

2- Quran contains angel words (proved to be a false claim)

3- Quran contains words with no message (proved to be a false claim)

4, 5, 6, 7- Quran contains invocation, blessing, praising, and thanking words (The real meaning of these words was explained)

But, what about the Bible?

According to the same 7 criteria, The Bible:

1- Contains the words of Jesus and other prophets:

It is mentioned explicitly in the Bible “Jesus said” in 115 verses. Examples: Matthew 4:10, Matthew 8:7,  Mark 1:17, Luke 8:46, John 21:16.

Other Prophets words are mentioned also: as “Abraham said” 5 times e.g. Genesis 17:18, “Moses said” 56 times e.g. Mark 7:10, “David said” 49 times e.g. Acts 2:25, “Solomon said” 3 times e.g. 1 Kings 1:53, and “Jacob said” 15 times e.g. Genesis 25:33.

2- Contains angel words:

It is mentioned explicitly in the Bible “angel said” 11 times. Examples: Matthew 28:5 and Luke 1:13.

3- Contains words with no message, and sometimes with wrong message:

What is the message in the story in Genesis 27:11-19 about Prophet Jacob when he lied to his father Isaac to get his blessings? (This is according to the Bible, but he never lied in fact)

Is the message is that we should lie to get blessings?

What is the message in pornography stories in the Bible such as: Ezekiel 23:19-20, Malachi 2:2-3, or Isaiah 36:12?

4- Contains invocation words

Like: “guide me in your truth and teach me guide me in your truth and teach me” Psalms 25:5, Psalms 67:4, and others.

5- Contains blessing words about God

Such as: “He also said, “Blessed be the LORD, the God of Shem!” Genesis 9:26

6- Contains praising words about God

Such as: “Let the name of the LORD be praised, both now and forevermore.” Psalms 113:2

7- Contains thanking words

Such as: “O God; I will present my thank offerings to you.” Psalms 56:12

What’s your answer Bahira?

Your criteria do not apply to Quran but apply to the Bible,

Does that mean that the Bible is not the word of God?

My answers dear Mona are below:

In Christianity the main war ethics are:

Do not leave alive anything that breathes:

However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you. (Deuteronomy 20:16-17)

Slaughter old men, women and children:

As I listened, he said to the others, “Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary.” So they began with the elders who were in front of the temple. (Ezekiel 9:5-6)

Kill the animals:

They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys. (Joshua 6:21)

Dear Mona,

I want to tell you what I know.

1. God is LOVE. Yes I saw many places in Bible when people where killed and I meditated why God allowed to kill other nations by hands of Jews. He chose one nation to reaveal Himself. He has ultimate power over creatures. He protected Jewish nation to teach them His commadments. And lead them to the promissed land. Yes. Other nations were killed and it is symbol for us. Our promissed land is Kingdom of Heaven. Mona God is leading His people to Kingdom of Heaven. You are outside Mona. You are one of people who will be killed by your sins. You will not enter Kingdom of Heavem unless you will submit to this ONE Powerful God! All nations were killed to show us NOW that we all will be killed without God! Only God of Abraham is TRUE God and being with Him we have HIS PROTECTION, promissed land called Heaven or Paradise, FUTURE! It is your decision Mona to be among His Inheritance and Be HIS INHERITANCE through faith into Jesus. Or to be in jihad or war with HIM. Dont forget that Jihad against Him always ended by defeat! Your defeat Mona in hell fire. BUT God is POWERFUL to save you. Just put your sword aside.

2. Let’s look which sword God is going to give you:

Not to bring peace, but sword: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn ” ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her motherinlaw (Matthew 10:34-35)- God’s sword will separe you from your sins. It means you will never worship madness and idols and other gods. You will worship HIM- God of IBRAHIM. And your Muslim family will be agains you. God will separate you by His sword from madness of your nation. God’s sword will bring separation of His nation and you will be part of His nation called church! Is it not sword if your father in Egypt will shoot to kill you? Yes. Let this sword of God come into our lifes! This sword will bring us FREEDOM! From madness and slavery of sins!

To bring fire:I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! (Luke 12:49) yes in next verse 12:50 you can see that He is saying about fire of holy Spirit. Holy Spirit will fill your nation like water of sea. Your nation will be saved by God and His Presence. Yur Arabs will worship this great God. All other people who will stay in Mecca and refuse to worship God of Ibrahim will die. It is fire separation you and your nation of people who worship idols and god which dodnt exist. But YOU Mna will be leader of your nation to salvation i am praying about it! And God is able to save you and lead you to His Kingdom.

3. To recall main concept of GOD ISSA ALLAH lets turn to Bible:

Matthew 5:39  But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

His is peace, Mona. He will protect you any second of your life! Because you belong to Him. Submit to Him and gain what you never had: YOUR LOVING FATHER who never will forsake you!

4. This pics you sent in attachment are about crimes of people. All who kills will not enter the kingdom of Heaven. Only God can clean him through faith in Jesus. And it is mercy which you will never find in Islam.

Bahira


Brothers, Mona as salamu alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh!

Barukh ata Adonai Eloheinu melekh ha‑olam, bo’re minei b’samim! Modeh ani lifanekha melekh hai v’kayam shehehezarta bi nishmahti b’hemla, raba emunatekha.

Translation: I give thanks before You, Living and Eternal King, that You have returned within me my soul with compassion; [how] abundant is Your faithfulness! Blessed are You, LORD, our God, King of the universe, Who creates varieties of spices!  Ya Subhan Issa Allah! Sallah Allahu ala Mona!

God save my brothers Arabs and all who are reading this message!

I liked your letter. But why do you use this mail Mona. Send replies to anaalmaas@maghreb.cc.

I am checking this mail very rerary…I didn’t see your message.. Try to reply please to anaalmaas…ok?

Mona I liked your message so much. Thank you.

My reply will be in red color.

Bahira says about revelation in Christianity: “So the revelation in Christianity is God’s words revealed by the Holy Spirit to the person or the prophet assigned by God who unites with God spiritually and exists in the presence of God”

Then she says:” In Christianity there is no intermediary but God reveals directly to man, while in Islam there is an intermediary.”

In another part she says: “So to understand the Holy Bible, man has to ask help from the Holy Spirit to teach him as He is the teacher who wrote the Holy Bible. Man should say: O spirit of God teach me your words”

Don’t you see that there are contradictions between these sentences?

Is there an intermediary (Holy Spirit)? –Holy Spirit is God.

Or no intermediary? God is teaching us. He is our teacher. God is Spirit. He is Holy Spirit.

Or they are taught by the Holy Spirit upon request?????- we are able to ask God to reveal us some of revelations related to specific situations…

In Islam Revelation have two types:

1-    Revelation by words: God gives the Prophet the exact words which is Quran.

2-    Revelation by meaning: insertion of a meaning into the heart of the prophet which is Hadeeth.- Hadith are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Hadith are regarded by traditional schools of jurisprudence as important tools for determining the Muslim way of life, the sunnah. Hadith were originally oral traditions of Muhammad’s actions and customs. From the first Fitna of the 7th century people sought to verify the sources of hadiths. This resulted in a list of transmitters, for example “A told me that B told him that Muhammad said.” This process was predominantly an oral one in the first century or so, until hadith were eventually written down en masse. They were then evaluated and gathered into large collections mostly during the reign of Umar bin Abdul Aziz, the grandson of Umar bin Khattab, the 2nd Caliph during the 8th and 9th centuries. These works are referred to in matters of Islamic law and history to this day. The first people who received hadith were the companions; so they preserved and understood it, knowing both its generality and particulars, and then conveyed it to those after them as they were commanded. Then the generation following them, the Followers received it thus conveying it to those after them and so on. So the companion would say, “I heard the Prophet say such and such.” The Follower would then say, “I heard a companion say, ‘I heard the Prophet.’” The one after him (after the Follower) would then say, “I heard someone say, ‘I heard a Companion say, ‘I heard the Prophet …’’” and so on. Traditions of the life of Muhammad and the early history of Islam were passed down orally for more than a hundred years after Muhammad’s death in AD 632. Scholars of the Abbasid period were faced with a huge corpus of miscellaneous traditions, some of them flatly contradicting each other. Many of these traditions supported differing views on a variety of controversial matters. Scholars had to decide which hadith were to be trusted as authentic and which had been invented for political or theological purposes. To do this, they used a number of techniques which Muslims now call the science of hadith. At the beginning of the 7th century, those receiving the hadith started to question the sources of the saying. The hadith were eventually recorded in written form, had their Isnad evaluated, and were gathered into large collections during the 8th century.

So, What Muhammad says using his own words is revelation of Hadeeth not Quran. But Quran is the exact words of Allah. – Is Qur’am exact word of Allah? NO! Look can Allah say it: (Muhammad’s words/the angels/invocation /praising/blessing/thanking)

In the Quran there are verses telling that its words are the inspired God’s words like:

1)     The Cattle chapter( Surat Al-An’am) 19:” this Quran has been revealed to me”

2)     The Cave chapter (Surat Al-Kahf):” It has been inspired to me”

3)     The Star chapter (Surat An-Najm) “it is only an Inspiration that is inspired.”

1) Muhammad’s words:

The Islamic encyclopaedia, part, page 8166, 8167 under the title (Muhammad and the Quran): According to the Muslims Sunnah, there are Quran verses telling that the wards of the Quran are the inspired God’s words, where Al-mighty God is the speaker and Muhammad is the receiver, but there are other Quran verses having another indications, In  them it seems that Muhammad is the speaker: as the darkening chapter (Surat At-Takwir) 15-21 and The Splitting chapter (Surat Al-Inshiqaaq) 16

There are other verses like:

1) The Cattle chapter (Surat Al-An’am) 104:”I am not a watcher over you”

2) The Cattle chapter (Surat Al-An’am) 114: “Shall I seek a judge other than Allah”

3) Hud chapter (Surat Hud) 2:” worship none but Allah. Verily, I am unto you from him a Warner and a bringer of glad tidings. Then I fear for you the torment of a Great Day”

4) The ants chapter (Surat An-Naml) 91:” I have been commanded only to worship the Lord of this city… And I am commanded to be from among the Muslims”

5) The ants chapter (Surat An-Naml) 92:” I have been commanded to recite the Quran”

6) Consultation Chapter (Surat Ash-Shura) 10:” Such is Allah, my Lord in whom I put my trust,”

So if they were God’ words, he wouldn’t say the verses as if he is the speaker, it is Muhammad who is speaking words of his own???!!!

Al-Tabry explained that saying, it seems that God is saying” O Muhammad say I am so and so”  but that’s irrational as how could anyone dare to insert words not actually present in the text into the verses, and what about those words inserted, do they exist in the preserved tablet before the beginning of time?!!!! You are challenged to think about God’s words in Qur’an! But there are not only God’ s words there. Don’t worry just reconsider your beliefes. If Qur’an is not from Allah then let’s find TRUE Allah who loves you as sons in Christianity!

2) The angels’ words:

There are other verses uttered by the angels as:

1) Mary chapter (Surat Maryam) 64:”And we (angels) descend not except by the Command of your Lord”

The annotators said: narrated Ibn Abbas: Gabriel was delayed to come onto the messenger of God, so the messenger mourned, and then Gabriel came to Muhammad and told him   “we descend not except by the Command of your Lord”(the verse)

Narrated Mugahed: the messengers (angels) was late to come onto the messenger of God, then Gabriel came to him lately, Muhammad asked him: why you are so late?, he replied how can we came while you are not trimming your nails and moustaches and cleaning your teeth using miswak (an old traditional Arabic way of teeth brushing using piece of wood used by Muhammad and the people of his time) and” we descend not except by the Command of your Lord” (the verse)

I am wondering why the angels couldn’t come to Muhammad, because he was not brushing his teeth and trimming his nails, were they disgusted? is that a reason for them to be late for him?

2) The Ranks chapter (Surat As-Saffaat) 164-166:” There is not one of us (angels), but has his known position, we stand in rows for the prayers. We are they who glorify”

Al-Galaleen said: Gabriel said to the prophet: we the angels have a certain dignified rank in heaven worshiping God within that and not exceeding it, so angels were speaking by themselves in those verses and they are not the inspired words of God ( that was also mentioned in ( the perfection in the quran sciences) by Al-Syouty).

Where all of those from the verse” it is only an Inspiration that is inspired.”

So being the words of God they should not be said by Muhammad or the angels

So, I will repeat again: but there are not only God’ s words there in Qur’an!!!! Don’t worry just reconsider your beliefs. If Qur’an is not from Allah then let’s find TRUE Allah who loves you as sons in Christianity!

But Bahira is trying to give us an impression that it was all inspiration not the exact words of God. She is using some verses from Quran saying that Quran is an inspiration such as: Al Anaam 19, Al Kahf 110, Al-Najm 4.

To analyze these verses we find that:

1- The first verse is telling that Quran is revelation to Muhammad, not inspiration. The second and third verses are telling that Muhammad receives revelation from God. So these verses do not support Bahiras claim. Al Tawba 6:  Al Fath 15:  Al Sajda 2: Foselat 41-42

Mona, I should repeat it: In Al-Azhar site over the internet, under the subject: Islamic concepts: Dr. Abdul latif Muhammad Al-Abed wrote complete and concise article about the revelation in Islam saying:” the revelation is the book and its assembly, to reveal to someone means to convey words to that man, that is pertained to him only and no one else.”

Religiously it is God’s revelation to his prophet either directly or through intermediary, so it is the transfer of what is within the Godly knowledge to the prophet through intermediary which is the angel.

In Christianity there is no intermediary but God reveals directly to man, while in Islam there is an intermediary. In Bible look God made revelations to men directly without use of any angels….it means that God don’t need any other intermediator to talk to people. He is speaking to us through Himself- Holy Spirit! That  is the difference between Islam and TRUE God!

Dr. Abdul latif continues saying: Knowing that God’s knowledge is in the conserved tablet, the Quran in one verse pointed to the three ways of revelation saying:” It is not fitting for a man that God should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a messenger to reveal, with God’s permission, what God wills: for He is Most High, Most Wise (Consultation Chapter( Surat Ash-Shura) 51).

Within a set of mostly religious beliefs Revelation refers to the act of revealing or disclosing, or making something obvious and clearly understood through active or passive communication with supernatural entities (divine, …). It is believed that revelation can originate directly from a deity, or through an agent, such as an angel. One who has experienced such contact with or communication from the divine is often called a prophet.

Some religions have religious texts which they view as divinely or supernaturally revealed or inspired. Revelation or information from a supernatural source is of much lesser importance in some other religious traditions. It is not of great importance in the Asian religions of Taoism and Confucianism, but similarities have been noted between the Abrahamic view of revelation and the Buddhist principle of Enlightenment.

Bahira claims that Quran is not revelation from God for the following reasons:
1- There are Quran verses having another indications, In  them it seems that Muhammad is the speaker
2- There are other verses uttered by the angels
3- there are words in the Quran taking the pattern of invocation
4- verses containing praising words
5- Quran verses with blessing frame as “Blessed be Allah”
6- there are verses with thanking frame
Correct!The Answer will be:

1- Showing how Bahira uses Quran verses out of their context.

2- Showing that these criteria apply to the Bible not to Quran.

First: How Bahira uses Quran verses out of their context.- dear Mona, context you can read yourself that’s why I am giving you Suras. But the fact is the fact. If Allah worships Himself in Qur’an it is ok. God in Bible never did it! He usually accepts worship from us! If we are quoting Suras then it is just quotes. Context could be and should be found by us ourselves! If I would hide context then I would not quote Suras!

– Show quoted text –Muhammad’s words:

Bahira says: “There are Quran verses having another indications, In  them it seems that Muhammad is the speaker.” And concludes: “So if they were God’ words, he wouldn’t say the verses as if he is the speaker, it is Muhammad who is speaking words of his own.”

Answer:

1- She used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- The context of these Ayahs has the meaning of “Say” because the context is all about God’s speech. If we Revise the examples Bahira mentioned by reading the whole context, including the Ayahs before and after the ones she mentioned, we find:

« She mentioned (Surat Al-An’am) 104:”I am not a watcher over you” and ignored that the context is all the speech of God and that a following Ayah is a command from God to Muhammad: (اتبع ما أوحى إليك من ربك) “Follow what thou art taught by inspiration from thy Lord: there is no god but He: and turn aside from those who join gods with Allah.” (Al Anaam 106)

« She mentioned (Surat Al-An’am) 114: “Shall I seek a judge other than Allah” and again ignored that the context is all the speech of God.

« She mentioned (Surat Hud) 2:” worship none but Allah. Verily, I am unto you from him a Warner and a bringer of glad tidings. Then I fear for you the torment of a Great Day” She wrote misleading translation of the Ayah. The Ayah is about Quran and says that Quran tells people not to worship anyone except Allah.

« She mentioned (Surat An-Naml) 91:” I have been commanded only to worship the Lord of this city… And I am commanded to be from among the Muslims” and 92:” I have been commanded to recite the Quran”.

She ignored that the context started with the word “Say” in Ayahs 59, 65, 69, and 72, and is followed by Ayah 93 that begins with “Say”, because the whole context is that God ordering Muhammad to tell people some things.

Does God have to tell Muhammad “Say” every Ayah, or can tell him to “Say” every group of Ayahs?

« She mentioned Surat Ash-Shura) 10:” Such is Allah, my Lord in whom I put my trust,” and again ignored that the context starts with Ayah 7 (وكذلك أوحينا إليك) “Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur’an:”, and ends with Ayah15 (فلذلك فادع واستقم كما أمرت) “Now then, for that (reason), call (them to the Faith), and stand steadfast as thou art commanded”.

Again does God have to tell Muhammad “Say” for every order or can tell him “Say ….. and ….. and ….”?

The angels’ words:

Bahira says: “There are other verses uttered by the angels” and says: “So being the words of God they should not be said by Muhammad or the angels”

Answer:

She Chose tafseer Al Galalen which says :” Gabriel said to the prophet: we the angels have a certain dignified rank in heaven worshiping God within that and not exceeding it,”

1- Does that mean that God is not narrating what Gabriel said to Muhammad?

2- Why didn’t you choose Tafseer Al Tabary that says: “وَهَذَا خَبَر مِنْ اللَّه عَنْ قِيل الْمَلَائِكَة أَنَّهُمْ قَالُوا: وَمَا مِنَّا مَعْشَر الْمَلَائِكَة إِلَّا مَنْ لَهُ مَقَام فِي السَّمَاء مَعْلُوم .”. “This is what God told about the angels that they said: we angels have certain dignified rank in Heaven”

Words with no message:

Bahira says: “they show no minor evidence of any message from God to people”

1- Again used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- Bahira says that Surat Ash-Shams, Surat Al-Qari’ah, Surat Al-Asr, and Surat At-Takaathur do not contain any message from God to people!!!!!!!!!!!

What about Surat Ash-Shams? telling people: (قد أفلح من زكاها وقد خاب من دساها) “Truly he succeeds that purifies it, And he fails that corrupts it!”.

Don’t people need to purify their souls to succeed?

What about Surat Al-Qari’ah? Telling people (فأما من ثقلت موازينه فهو فى عيشة راضية وأما من خفت موازينه فأمه هاوية) “Then, he whose balance (of good deeds) will be (found) heavy, Will be in a life of good pleasure and satisfaction. But he whose balance (of good deeds) will be (found) light,- Will have his home in a (bottomless) Pit.”

Don’t people need to know that doing good deeds will make the go to Heaven and that doing bad deeds will make them go to hell?

– Show quoted text – What about Surat Al-Asr? Telling people: (إن الإنسان لفى خسر إلا الذين آمنوا وعملوا الصالحات وتواصوا بالحق وتواصو بالصبر), “Verily Man is in loss, Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy.“.

Is telling people what they should do in order not to be in loss a message from God to people or not?

What about Surat At-Takaathur? Telling people: (ألهاكم التكاثر حتى زرتم المقابر), “The mutual rivalry for piling up (the good things of this world) diverts you (from the more serious things), Until ye visit the graves.“.

Is telling people what they should concentrate on serious things before the die a message from God to people or not?

Invocation words:

Bahira says: “there are words in the Quran taking the pattern of invocation”  and says: “could God say: “we worship” and ask for help and ask for guide to himself?”

Answer:

1- Again she used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- What’s wrong if Allah teaches us what to say in Duaa and prayer?

Praising words:

Bahira says: “does God glorify and praise himself? Those words are not definitely the words of God”

Answer:

1- Again she used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- God is telling us that all creatures glorify Allah. What’s wrong with that? What’s wrong if Allah praises Himself? Allah deserves praise.

Blessing words

Bahira says: “some Quran verses with blessing frame as “Blessed be Allah”” and says: “So could the speaker in those verses be God himself and he is blessing himself??”

Answer:

1- Again she used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- The original Arabic word that Bahira is referring to is the word “TABARAK” which means “highly exalted; far removed from every defect, impurity, imperfection, and everything derogatory; possessing abundant good”

3- The usage of the translation “Blessed” does not mean the same blessings given to creatures, the word “Blessed” has another meaning which is found in the dictionary: “worthy of adoration, reverence, or worship”. Revise your knowledge, Bahira!

Thanking words

Bahira says: “And thanks can’t be the words of God as he couldn’t thank himself. So in conclusion, not all of the words of the Quran are God’s words.”

Answer:

1- Again she used the Islamic Encyclopedia as a reference, and this encyclopedia is not an Islamic source, but was written by Christian scholars, mainly priests and some Jews participated in it.

2- What’s wrong if Allah tells us that He deserves to be thanked?

Conclusion:

The 7 Criteria that Bahira claimed to prove that Quran is not the word of Allah are as follows:

1- Quran is Muhammad’s words (proved to be a false claim)- correct!

2- Quran contains angel words (proved to be a false claim)-correct!

3- Quran contains words with no message (proved to be a false claim)- good that you can see good in Qur’an. Some Muslims became christians analyzing only Qur’an and never read Bible. Because Qur’an is saying about Issa Allah- Word of God who is the Spirit of God i.e.God or Issa Allah!

4, 5, 6, 7- Quran contains invocation, blessing, praising, and thanking words (The real meaning of these words was explained)

But, what about the Bible? What’s your answer Bahira?

Your criteria do not apply to Quran but apply to the Bible,

Does that mean that the Bible is not the word of God?- Mona, Holy Scripture which we call Bible was given people directly through the Holy Spirit.  There are no angels who could be mediators among God and people in bible. Only Jesus- WHO IS GOD HIMSELF! Brothers, don’t believe to angels! Believe to LOVE of GOD who loves you unconditionally and is calling you all to turn to Him and look for Him! He will save you! Find His LOVE and be saved through His mercy in His grace!

What’s your answer Bahira?- I don’t claim that Bible is.- Let’s recall what I said:

The Islamic encyclopaedia, part, page 8166, 8167 under the title (Muhammad and the Quran): According to the Muslims Sunnah, there are Quran verses telling that the wards of the Quran are the inspired God’s words, where Al-mighty God is the speaker and Muhammad is the receiver, but there are other Quran verses having another indications, In  them it seems that Muhammad is the speaker: as the darkening chapter (Surat At-Takwir) 15-21 and The Splitting chapter (Surat Al-Inshiqaaq) 16.

Question is: is Allah speaking and Muhammad is receiver? Or Muhammad and angels are speakers? But who is then Allah? One who worships Himself? Or has name “best deceiver” or makir? But let’s better submit to God who hates SINS such as lie!!!! He is waiting for you brothers! Look for Him and He will find YOU!

Your criteria do not apply to Quran but apply to the Bible- I didn’t talk about Bible but I was speaking about direct revelation of Allah to Muhammad. In Bible I will repeat again: God was speaking directly to men through the HOLY SPIRIT!

Does that mean that the Bible is not the word of God?- Bible is direct revelation to people given in LOVE and not through convulsions from which Muhammad suffered!

Bahira

Conversation 2

My dear Mona salam! Brothers may God bless you all today!
God bless you today Mona!
It is so nice to talk to you and hear your voice in your words, sister.
My replies will be in blue color.

Bahira said: “Our promised land is Kingdom of Heaven”

Is the Kingdom of Heaven reached by destruction of cities, killing civilians, killing animals, and robbing money (or petroleum)? There is something called ethical war.- Mona, the promissed land for Jews was promissed to Israel people as symbol of our Future destination. You Mona probably Egyptian lady, I suppose, but God promissed you too…it is the promissed land called Heaven or Kingdom of Heaven. Mona He is calling you to Him to His Kingdom. That’s why you are looking for Him. God oinvited us to enter there to live with Him. All who will reject it should die without God, Mona. Why? Because if there is only one source of water- spring- in Saudi Arabian desert, then welcome drink from this water of spring free. You dont need water Mona? Ok. But God warns you that you will die without water! Why?! Because water is integral part of your physical body. The same way God gives yo water (or all what is required for your existence)- the Holy Spirit to live and be alive! Accept this water Mona and dont die in desert of your life! God is Your Kingdom of Heaven

(not countless number of women in paradise!). God! Loook for Him from the bottom part of your heart and God will love you and allow you to be in His presence through His great Son Jesus Christ who died to eturn you to God! Your God! Not just idea ..NO! Your Father now! He is adopting you and that’s why He calls yoy Mona His INHERITANCE! What is Inheritance? it means you Mona will have everything- abundance of God’s blessing like child of God! People and even our parent dont care of us. But why God is so PERFECT in His LOVE to us?Because He is not human being to be changed!

Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

James 1:17  Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? (and now Mona just recall that Allah in Islam called Himself- makir! best deceiver! What is then sin is Islam? To Kill PEOPLE protecting Allah? Does Allah need your protection? lol. My Allah is ALMIGHTY and murders He considers as crime! Because He is LAW MAKER!)

How to come to His Presence? Through  destruction of cities, killing civilians, killing animals, and robbing money (or petroleum)? Through Jesus! Who said:

Matthew 5:39  But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Some people think that such claims of God: dont resist evil..is madness…madness for people of war…who are fighting with God and it is clearly called in Islam: jihad. It is war with God not on His part! Because God doesn’t need our fighting! He is Almighty! He want to be reconciled with us. But who is this God of Peace? God of Ibraham! God Jesus! You prefer jihad? Or. But it means your God in this case is WAR! It is one of the features of your God then. But my God is different:He is LOVE to Israel, Palestine people of all who joined HIM in His Kingdom already now on the earth!

Bahira said: “Only God of Abraham is TRUE God and being with Him we have HIS PROTECTION, promised land called Heaven or Paradise”

Bahira is very good at twisting facts.
The God of Abraham is the God of Moses is the God of David Is the God of Solomon is the God of Jesus is the God of Muhammad is Allah.
All Muslims (including me) Believe in the God of Abraham.
(قولوا امنا بالله وما انزل الينا وما انزل الى ابراهيم واسماعيل واسحاق ويعقوب والاسباط وما اوتي موسى وعيسى وما اوتي النبيون من ربهم لا نفرق بين احد منهم ونحن له مسلمون)

“Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).” (Al Baqara 136)

Only you Christians Believe in another God which is Jesus (or the Holy spirit or God or the three together, I don’t know).

So, according to what you said, “Only God of Abraham is TRUE God”, then Muslims are promised Heaven while Christians who believe in another God aren’t.yes, my dear Mona, now you see that my God is God of Abraham! You also through that you followed HIM! You also believed that He is in Islam! You supposed that you worshiped Him in mosque! But is He God who made such prophesy (prophet Issaiah before the birth of Jesus Christ):

Isaiah 53

1 Who has believed our report?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,
And as a root out of dry ground.
He has no form or comeliness;
And when we see Him,
There is no beauty that we should desire Him.

3 He is despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4 Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;

Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.
5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,

He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment,
And who
will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.
9 And they made His grave with the wicked—
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.

11 He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,
For He shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,
And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,

Because He poured out His soul unto death,
And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,

And made intercession for the transgressors.


It was said about Issa Al Massih! It was said from prophet to you Mona that Jesus was sticke for your transgressions Mona, for transgression of my people Arabs. Jesus was offering for our sins Mona. You are His seed Mona- His inheritance to live with God! You will prosper in His land- not in Jerusalem! No! In Kingdom of Heaven! You will not have your iniquities! Because you should die Mona without God in your jihad war against God. But ANOTHER man was killed instead of you? WHO? God! Son of God! Issa Ibn Allah! WHY? He decided to die to save you! Because of His PERFECT LOVE to you! He loved you even when you fought in jihad! He loved suicide bombers even when they decided to kill Jews and blow bus with child going home from school….child was going to mother…now mother is seeing coffin…was it guilt of child to die and that child should be suffering in fire of bomb? No. What was heart of God to suicide bomber? God loved this shahyd and His heart was crying about his decision to explode himself and people in bus…but until the last second of his life God was trying to stop him….who is obeying this God? Who is obeying this God of LOVE? Who is obeying this God of Love what was teaching us to turn another cheek and don’t resist to evil? Who? WE! MY ARAB People! Why? Because God called you GREAT NATION not in vain!!!! You are His inheritance! Rise up brothers! Turn your face to God  from your sins! To God partwho is God of Ibrahim! Who will lead you to His Kingdom! Stop fighting in your heart against HIM! He is your LOVING FATHER and NOT ENEMY!

Bahira said: “Dont forget that Jihad against Him always ended by defeat”
Well, You know it then!
Jihad against the God of Abraham (My God) will end in defeat.

I advise you to stop Jihad against Him. –Yes let’s do it together my Mona! Lets see God of PEACE in our HOME, MONA! I am praying about you and I know that God HEARS my Prayer: FATHER, please save Mona from slavery! Lead her from slavery of her sins to YOUR blessings! Wash away her sins and give her part among the greatest people called YOUR sons! She is part of great nation and let her be eternally next to You in Your plans.

Bahira said: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn ” ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother in law” (Matthew 10:34-35). God’s sword will separe you from your sins. “

But if it is not a real sword, Why turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother……?
Should a man become an enemy of his parents to separate from sins?
In Islam, even if your parents are disbelievers, you have to treat them well

(وان جاهداك على ان تشرك بي ما ليس لك به علم فلا تطعهما وصاحبهما في الدنيا معروفا )
“But if they strive to make thee join in worship with Me things of which thou hast no knowledge, obey them not; yet bear them company in this life with justice (and consideration), and follow the way of those who turn to me (in love): in the end the return of you all is to Me, and I will tell you the truth (and meaning) of all that ye did.” (Luqman 15) Separation of His people from everything is evident. If in one family anyone  becomes Christian, in Muslim families for example, they he is enemy to other family members. Daughter is against madness of Islam. Daughter doesn’t accept Allah of Islam. Daughter doesn’t pray Allah of Islam but Allah Issa. Is it not sword of separation of what belongs to God from what other people are doing? Daugher is against politic situation…daughter is against words of Ahmed Jibril, Ismail Haniye and Abdul-Rahman al-Hawali…daughter is against ideology called WAR which was confessed by her mother!

Bahira said: “This pics you sent in attachment are about crimes of people. All who kills will not enter the kingdom of Heaven.”
No, Bahira!
If the deeds of people are opposite to what’s in the Bible, You can call it “Crime of people”.But when the deeds of people match exactly what’s in the Bible (Destruction, killing civilians, torture),
CAN YOU DENY THAT THE DEEDS OF WHO FOLLOW THE BIBLE WERE INSPIRED FROM THE BIBLE?- Dear Mona, do you remember Dar al Harb and Dar As Salam? We have the same in christianity! Or we are fighting with God then we are sinners and dead people already now during our life or we are Dar As Salam who gained PEACE from GOD OF PEACE! It means ALL WHO ARE KILLING ARABS, OR MUSLIMS don’t believe in what God Jesus said:

Matthew 5:39  But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Who are such people? Dar al Harb? YES! If they don’t obey God Jesus can they be Christian? NO. Can they be saved and be present in His Kingdom? NO! There is no madness in our God! He is great and sins are just unacceptable for HIM! But He is able to forgive these shahyds through faith in mercy of Jesus. He was killed instead of them! They need to recognize Him and appreciate this GREAT and PERFECT DEATH of the GREATEST GOD!


IF these where only crimes of people, then why when the crusaders entered Jerusalem, ….– Dear Mona, Arabs are looking for holy Land and they always wanted to be there. But this holy land is Kingdom of heaven – NOT ISRAEL or PALESTINE! Mona! There are enough place for all nations int the Kingdom of Heaven! Welcome my brothers to this place where God is living with us! No war is leading there! God is leading us there! Crusaders didn’t accept Jesus and His words of peace! Jesus didn’t command to kill Arabs! On the contrary, He called them GREAT Nation! Can God lie to us? NO! At least God in Bible is such …He hate sins and lie..it is abomination for Him…in Islam no. In Islam it is good to lie for war.
Why were the priests raising their crosses and asking the soldiers to kill?- it is madness of such priests! I have my own priest who proclaimed PEACE and His name is ISSA! God Jesus!
Why there was a consensus on killing all the people in the city? No one of them said no? Because they were doing what’s in the Bible.– their conscience was saying NO inside of them. God through their conscience was talking to them that they were wrong! But their “islam” was leading them to war against commandments of God about PEACE! They preferred war instead of LOVE to my Arabs! If you are acting opposite what God says it means YOUR ISLAM don’t comply with Islam of Issa Allah and you war will be defeated! Or with God or against HIM! Third is NOT Given! Now look another moment: 60% of Qur’an is about jihad but again Allah in Islam contradicts Himself!!!! Look what Allah said to Palestinians:


[17:100] Proclaim, “If you possessed my Lord’s treasures of mercy, you would have withheld them, fearing that you might exhaust them. The human being is stingy.”

Moses and Pharaoh

[17:101] We supported Moses with nine profound miracles – ask the Children of Israel. When he went to them, Pharaoh said to him, “I think that you, Moses, are bewitched.”

[17:102] He said, “You know full well that no one can manifest these except, obviously, the Lord of the heavens and the earth. I think that you, Pharaoh, are doomed.”

[17:103] When he pursued them, as he chased them out of the land, we drowned him, together with those who sided with him, all of them.

[17:104] And we said to the Children of Israel afterwards, “Go live into this land. When the final prophecy comes to pass, we will summon you all in one group.”



Revise history, Bahira. These photos are very mild with respect to what really happens in Christian wars.- yes my dear Mona, don’t look at their crimes. Look into your heart and be cleansed from your inequities by acceptance of Lord Jesus. His DEATH and blood was shed…not yours…He was suffered…not you…He was dead…not you…TO GIVE YOU MONA SALVATION! He died for YOU Mona..personally FOR YOU! Enter to God though this great and perfect WAY of LOVE called Jesus! There is no guilt for you! All your sins are forgiven, you are clean and holy in eyes of God! THROUGH FAITH! TROUGH Sufferings of your GOD proving HIS LOVE towards YOU, MONA!

God, please help all my brothers and sisters who are listening to me to believe in YOU! Holy Spirit I invite YOU to their hearts and lives! LIVE in them and bring them to Your Holy Land -Your Kingdom and bring to them Your Kingdom into their Hearts through Your Presence inside of their hearts! Live in them God! Please be God of my Arabs! Amen.

Bahira

My prayer about my Mona. I say: “my Mona,” because I am saying about my blood in her…she is my sister…ONE FATHER…one GOD…ONE Salvation fo her and me! ONE HOPE!

Lord Jesus please keep Mona in Your hands. She is offspring of Ibrahim. SAVE her Father! Amen.

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