Reply to my sister Niqqabigirl
Issa Allah, subhana Kal-lah hum-ma wabi hamdika wata-bara kasmuka wata’ala jad-duka wala ilaha ghyruka!
Niqabbigirl wrote:I just thought I would ask this question of everyone to see what their understanding is of what a prophet is? So I would like to discuss with you these and other verses about prophets.
Read and reply to the message of Niqabbigirl here:
Deuteronomy 18:15-22 (KJV)
15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.
17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Deuteronomy 18 (New King James Version)
A New Prophet Like Moses
15 The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear, 16 according to all you desired of the LORD your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, nor let me see this great fire anymore, lest I die.
17 And the LORD said to me: What they have spoken is good. 18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. 19 And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. 21 And if you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken? 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
Today many Muslim apologists claim that the term “brethren” in Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18:18, could include anyone who is a descendant of Abraham. They believe that since Muhammad was an assumed descendant of Ishmael, Abraham’s first son, then Muhammad qualifies as a ‘brother’ to the Israelites, and is indeed the prophet who Moses foretold in Deuteronomy 18:18.
But who really was this prophet? Let’s analyze the holy Scriptures.
The New Testament tells us that Jesus is the prophet Moses foretold (Acts 3:22).
11 Now as the lame man who was healed held on to Peter and John, all the people ran together to them in the porch which is called Solomon’s, greatly amazed. 12 So when Peter saw it, he responded to the people: Men of Israel, why do you marvel at this? Or why look so intently at us, as though by our own power or godliness we had made this man walk? 13 The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered up and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let Him go. 14 But you denied the Holy One and the Just, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, 15 and killed the Prince of life, whom God raised from the dead, of which we are witnesses. 16 And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
17 Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20 and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began. 22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. 24 Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also foretold these days. 25 You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed. 26 To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.
Let’s examine the biblical evidence and see if Muhammad has a claim to be the prophet foretold by Moses.
Some Muslims object to Muhammad being ruled out as the prophet, and assert the following:
“Jesus never claimed to be the prophet Moses foretold”.
Jesus never said directly “I am the prophet of Deuteronomy 18:18”. But He said that He was a prophet, and probably meant that He was that prophet. Other parts of the N.T. declare Him to be that prophet. Let’s start with Christ’s implications then go on:
1)-Luke 7:39 – the Pharisee said to himself, ‘if this man were a prophet…Jesus knew his thoughts and addressed them, proving to the Pharisee that he was a prophet.
2)-John 5:46 – Jesus said “If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he (Moses) wrote about me.” Moses did write about Jesus; Jesus is the prophet of Deuteronomy 18:18. Jesus claimed to be the prophet Moses foretold.
3)-In various places, at various times, various people called Jesus the ‘prophet’ of Deuteronomy 18:18, yet Jesus never corrected them, rebuked them, or told them otherwise. He always accepted those particular statements. When the Pharisees called him otherwise, He set them straight. Matt. 21:11, John 1:45, 6:14, 7:40, Luke 7:16, 24:19, etc.
4)-Jesus did call Himself a prophet – John 4:44
5)-After His ascension His disciples emphatically said He was that prophet: Acts 3:22, 7:37.
“LIKE UNTO ME”
Another point often brought up by Muslims is that Moses said that the future prophet would be “like unto me“. Muslims then list the similarities between Moses and Muhammad, and the dis-similarities between Moses and Jesus as proof that Muhammad is the foretold prophet.
There can be found similarities and differences between all men. What needs to be identified are the crucial attributes that the future prophet would have to possess to be “like unto Moses”.
Here is the Deut. 18 passage again from the NRSV:
“The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you shall heed such a prophet. This is what you requested of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said: “If I hear the voice of the Lord my God any more, or ever again see this great fire, I will die.” Then the Lord replied to me: “They are right in what they have said. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will put my words in the mouth of the prophet, who shall speak to them everything that I command.”
So, the first requirement is
(1) this future prophet is to speak the words that God puts in his mouth.
Additional implicit requirements to make this prophet “like unto Moses” can be found in the last verses in Deuteronomy 34.10-12:
“And there has not arisen a prophet since in Israel like Moses, (2) whom the Lord knew face to face, none like him for all the (3) signs and wonders which the Lord sent him to do in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land, and for all the mighty power and all the great and terrible deeds which Moses performed in the sight of all Israel.”
The three requirements we find are:
1) this future prophet is to speak the words that God puts in his mouth.
2) this future prophet would speak with God face to face
3) this future prophet would perform miracles, signs, and wonders.
How do Jesus and Muhammad compare to these requirements?
1. the future prophet is to speak the words that God puts in his mouth.
Jesus said that He spoke God’s word; he heard directly from God.
John 7:16, 17 – “My teaching is not mine but his who sent me. Anyone who resolves to do the will of God will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own.”
John 8:28 – “So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will realize that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own, but I speak these things as the Father instructed me.”
Muhammad heard the Quran from a spirit he believed to be Gabriel. Muhammad repeated the words that this spirit spoke.
The Quran, chapter 53:2-5 – “Your comrade does not err, nor is he deceived, nor does he speak of his own desire. It is an inspiration this is inspired, which one (Gabriel) of mighty powers has taught him.”
Muhammad fails the requirement because he did not hear from God directly. In fact, the Bible contains warnings about angels teaching false messages:
2 Cor. 11:14 – “And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades an angel of light.”
Gal. 1:8 – “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!”
2. the future prophet would speak with God face to face
Jesus was with God prior to being revealed on earth. While he was on earth, he spoke with God face to face.
John 1:18 – “No one has ever seen God. It is God the only Son who is close to the Father’s heart, who has made him known.”
John 17:5 – “So now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had in your presence before the world existed.”
Matthew 17:5 – “While he was still speaking, suddenly a bright cloud overshadowed them, and from the cloud a voice said, “This is my Son, the Beloved; with him I am well pleased; listen to him!”
As stated before, Muhammad never spoke with God directly. The entire Quran was given to him through a medium – a spirit. Was the spirit from God? If not, then we can conclude that it was an evil spirit that was deceiving Muhammad.
I’ll note that after Moses spoke with God face to face, his face glowed with the glory of God. Jesus was transfigured when he spoke with God face to face. (Exodus 34:29, Matthew 17:2). Muhammad was never transfigured; he never radiated the glory of God.
3) the future prophet would perform miracles, signs, and wonders.
Jesus performed many miracles. Read Luke chapters 5, 7, and 8 to find some of them.
The Quran shows that Muhammad performed no miracles. Even the people who did not believe him pointed it out that Muhammad lacked miracles.
The Quran, chapter 6:57, 58 – “Say: “For me, I (work) on a clear sign from my Lord, but you reject Him. What you would see hastened (a miracle) is not in my power. The command (to perform a miracle) rests with none by Allah: He declares the Truth, and He is the best of judges. Say: if what you would see hastened (a miracle) were in my power, the matter would be settled at once between you and me…
The Quran, chapter 28:48 – “…They (the people who did not believe in Muhammad) say, “Why aren’t miracles sent to him like those sent to Moses?”
A FINAL COMPARISON / CRITERIA:
One very important similarity between Moses and Jesus was that they each mediated a covenant. Moses was the mediator of the Old Covenant (Testament); Christ of the New Covenant, or Testament. (Exodus 19 and 20, Hebrews 12:24). Muhammad did not bring a covenant. Muhammad’s Islam is but a synthesis of Jewish, Christian, and Pagan religious themes mixed with Muhammad’s own ideas.
CONCLUSION ON “LIKE UNTO ME”
Jesus satisfied the requirements to be “like unto Moses”. Muhammad did not. Jesus fulfilled the requirements, Muhammad fails the requirements. Jesus spoke God’s direct words, Muhammad did not speak God’s direct words, he spoke a spirit’s words. Jesus spoke with God face to face, Muhammad did not speak with God face to face. Jesus performed many miracles, Muhammad performed no miracles.
Jesus is the prophet Moses foretold, Muhammad cannot be the prophet Moses foretold.
6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
8Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
9Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
30I and the Father are one.”
Questions and answers
This is according to what perspective of worshipping?
When God gives you orders and humans give you the opposite order, if you follow the human order then you don’t worship God alone.
If you address Mary or any other human (Alive or dead) with your prayers, or ask her for something that God alone can do, then you worship Mary with God.
If you ask priests for forgiveness and believe that you can not get forgiveness except through confessing to the priest, then you are worshipping priests beside God.
If you call Jesus “son of God” then you are worshipping Jesus beside God.
All these you worship beside God, and you are saying that you worship only the God of Abraham????
1. This is according to what perspective of worshipping?- Our worship is only to God!
2. When God gives you orders and humans give you the opposite order, if you follow the human order then you don’t worship God alone. If you address Mary or any other human (Alive or dead) with your
prayers, or ask her for something that God alone can do, then you worship Mary with God.- we dont worship Mary. It is sin and it is forbidden by God.
3. If you ask priests for forgiveness and believe that you can not get forgiveness except through confessing to the priest, then you are worshipping priests beside God.- we dont ask any priests to forgive us because ONLY God can forgive us.
4. If you call Jesus “son of God” then you are worshipping Jesus beside God.- Jesus is God. Like you Mona is Arab and your father is Arab.
5. All these you worship beside God, and you are saying that you worship
only the God of Abraham???? – yes. We worship ony ONE God who is also Holy Spirit. Water is one but there are many forms of water (ice, snow and steam).
1. When God gives you orders and humans give you the opposite order, if you follow the human order then you don’t worship God alone.– we dont follow any PEOPLE or any orders. We obey ONLY God.
2. If you address Mary or any other human (Alive or dead) with your prayers, or ask her for something that God alone can do, then you worship Mary with God.- we NEVER address Mary or any person with prayers. BECAUSE it is SIN. We address with prayer ONLY God. We never adddress any dead person with prayer like Muslims do. Why? Beacuse FAITH in our God is NOT madness! Everything what is written in Bible is SENCE and HIGH Meaning. It is not madness!
4. kiss hands of popes
5.place bones of popes in catoic churches
6.call to kill Arabs during crusades?
They ALL who DONT follow the Holy Scriptures! They DONT obey God! They ARE SINNERS! Who will be saved among them? Who of them wll obey God?
But we are RESPONSIBLE to follow God of Ibrahim in Bible and obey Him. Not any crazyness or madness of people! Because there is NO madness in our God!
We are NOT allowed to worship any one except God. Bible says that is is sin. And we dont worship mother of Jesus. Because it is sin.
Many people who call themselves christians dont obey God what He said in Bible. And God will deal with them.
But our responsibility is NOT to worship any one except one God of Ibrahim.
What’s new Dalia?
Have you forgotten that Christianity is FREEDOM?
Bahira has the freedom to call Jesus whatever she wants, to invent prayers not found anywhere in her Bible, and to call Jesus new names he even never knew about himself.
Maybe she attended a new council where they decided to call Jesus “Subhanak” or maybe the new council decided that they should adopt Islamic prayers because they found that they are more touching than Christian prayers.
Anyway, Christianity this way is a very fashionable religion, next time maybe she decides to adopt Budaism prayers and attach Jesus name to it.
you are right.
But freedom NOT in sins. We are forbidden to sin or we will die in hell.
We can use different words and any words combination if meaning is WORSHIP of God and if we agree with these words we
Do you remmeber I told you that there are many mosques were christian Arabs better to say Muslim-background believers worship Jesus.
Building remained building but people inside mosque are changed. They worship another TRUE God of Ibrahim.
So, buildings, names are nothing. But our hearts which woirship Jesus means for Him everything. Rituals are nothing. But heart saying a few simple words to God means Everything to Him.
Prayer is CONVERSATION with God Father. Do you see I am using a few words when I pray about you and He knows even these a few words BEFORE I am going to tell Him them.
Will Muslims die in hell or NOT?
let’s consider why GOD is sending floods, hurricanes, illnesses to us on the earth?
Why did He send it in Saudi Arabia, America, Indonesia?
He said in holy Scriptures that such cases will be during the last days. What is the reson to kill people in such circumstances?
He warned people that HE is OUR aim and Destination we are going to. But if we have found our own way or way chosen for us by our ethnicity, nationality, Islam or any other religion THEN we will DIE because we are failed to reach destination..air plane is crashed…BUT Mona survived (:))
No..not only Mona, you all will survive if you will PUT your TRUST in Issa Allah!
My site was visited by many Muslims from Indonesia during last events in Malasia. They are looking for God when life is in danger.
So, it is warning for Muslim world, America and all people: YOU WILL DIE or you will LIVE with the Source of LIFE- JESUS.
Put your replies here (for history):
Issa Allahumma Innee Zalamtu nafsee zthulman katheeran wa la yaghfaru zunuba illa anta faghfirlee maghfiritam min indika war hamnee innaka antal ghaforar raheem.
|Will God forgive all my sins?
|WHAT is Salvation?
|How can I be saved?
|Will God adopt me? Does He really loved me BEFORE the creation of the world?
|Arabs, Muslims, pray this prayer below and BE SAVED of ALL your sins:
Now it is your time
to be saved by perfect God!
I said that I am sinner. That I love Arabs. And I am ready to refure eternal life that only they will be saved. I was talking about Gamal, Nancy, Mona and Dalia. I am sinner but I am forgiven by grace and mercy of God. So, already now I have eternal life and Kingdom of Heaven. But this pain is very terrible if my brothers will die without God! It was voice of my heart what you quoted. I have salvation. My name is wrtitten in the Book of life. God is called me His inheritance and daughter. I will be eternally with Him. But I need desperatelly you to join HIM!!
I found personal relationships with God! You can find it too! He is not our Master any more, He is our Father! I urge you now to find such great and LOVING Father! Do you have today absolute assurance that if you will die today you will go to Heaven? Where you stand in your relationships with God? If you are not one of those people then I urge you to get right with God! And I will close my message by prayer and I will give you opportunity to commit yourself to Jesus Christ who is God. So, you can know that you will go to Heaven when you will die. Father, speak to every person listening to my words in this message. Help everyone of us to be right with You, knowing that we are ready to meet You in your Kingdom. Jesus said that we should be born again or more literal rendering of that statement is you need to be born from ABOVE. We are not automatically born again Christians! How is one born from above? How do spiritual rebirth take place? If someone says I have been converted to receive Christ what does it mean? It means there is a moment in their life when they made a personal commitment to the Lord and have responded to the OFFER of Eternal life. Would you like to do it? I’d like to lead you in a prayer. And as you pray this prayer from the bottom part of your heart you too can be born from above! You can be certain that if you are converted your sin is forgiven. If you would like to make this commitment, pray this prayer wherever you are!
Pray this prayer now: Jesus forgive me of my sin. I know that I have sinned against You but I thank You for dying on the cross for me and rising again from the dead. Now be my personal Lord and Savior and write my name in the Book of the life! Forgive me all my sins and cleanse my hands from the blood of my sins. And help me to follow You from this day forward! Thank You that You came into my life and You saidthaI am child of God now.
If you have just prayed this prayer Jesus Christ came into your life and God tells us in Bible that if we will believe in His name, we will know that we have eternal life. And if you have taken this step of prayer to believe in Him you can know that God has indeed forgiven you. Let me personally assure you that you have made the right decision. The decision to follow God Jesus Christ!
Read what i published on my site.
To be “born again” for new life with God or “born from above” you need:
1.to believe in Jesus
2. sincerely repent in all your sins
3. Live with God and not against Him.
Haitam read it and let me know what do you think?! Ok?
Lord Jesus please save my brother Haitam and all who are readyng this emssage and write their names in the Book of the life. Be their God. Their Salvation. Their Freedom. Their Future. Their LOVE!
Jesus protect them and lead them to Your and their Kingdom..Kingdom of Heaven. Adopt them and bless them by the power of the Holy Spirit to be sons of GOD!